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Subsidize This: US Eyes Tariffs on Chinese Solar Panels, But What Gets Protected?

Firedoglake -- While trade is often a bone of contention between the U.S. and China, this week’s visit by Chinese V. President Xi Jinping threw the spotlight on one subset of that battle that could have far-reaching effects well in excess of the raw dollar amounts at stake.

At issue is a complaint filed by a solar industry trade group, the Coalition for American Solar Manufacturing asking that the US government impose tariffs on Chinese solar panels. CASM wants the duties for what it claims are unfair subsidies by China that make Chinese solar products substantially cheaper than those offered by many US competitors.

indicate the federal govt set to weigh in on the side of US solar energy companies in this brewing trade war, and so make a stand for domestic green energy manufacturing and good-paying job


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honda0105
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2012 5:15:03 AM

repeat article?
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tomok
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2012 2:11:24 AM

US Eyes Tariffs on Chinese Solar Panels OR Produce Cheaper renewable energy from solar, wind, hydro, thermal, tidal and/or nuclear to replace the oil that will not be there some day. Cheaper alternative fuels from algae, bacteria, the biomass or the waste stream.
NO subsidies or tariffs needed!
Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle is, Produce and ‘Drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. Consider using ‘other’ forms of transportation or car pool to lower your cost for transportation.
The price of fuel at the pump is too high!
12/22/2012!
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TXryder
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2012 1:09:47 AM

Tariffs should have been placed on all Chinese imports back when they signed into a free trade agreement. Its no secret that US companies have been undercut by cheap Chinese imported garbage forcing factory closures and massive layoffs all across the US. FULL POWER AHEAD with the TARIFFS!
I rather pay a little extra for a US-made, quality controlled product rather than some Communist Chinese inferior crap that falls apart.
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Zonk
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 11:28:51 PM

Why all the get up on solar panels? It would not be my choice for energy for
the U.S. now or in the future.
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suzmar
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 11:15:27 PM

Just forget about solar, manufactures want tariffs because their products are not economically feasible.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 11:11:22 PM

Yes, I see where they are coming from
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 11:10:31 PM

I read this yesterday.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 11:07:01 PM

Two wrongs do not make a right.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 11:06:11 PM

yes
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 11:05:16 PM

Lets do it
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 11:02:47 PM

I doubt that the US has the backbone to stand up to the Chinese and make it work.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 11:00:35 PM

Yep - the Solar industry - the backbone of OBozo's green energy plan. How many BILLIONS in grants and loans from the Fed Energy Dept? And how many bankruptcies and defaults on loans financed by US -THE TAXPAYERS?

and now they want tariff protection! Wonder who's election coffers they are pouring millions into?
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 10:59:48 PM

Yes
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 10:57:31 PM

GOOD MOVE CHINA'S NEVER PLAYED FAIR.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 10:56:46 PM

ok
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 10:56:09 PM

they need to do this right and not screw things up
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 10:55:33 PM

Well get it done.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 10:55:01 PM

ok....
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 10:53:44 PM

We shall see!
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 10:50:07 PM

More Crap from the Gov't.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 10:44:48 PM

Our companies are failing without tariffs.. So this is stupid, we arent close to competing..
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 10:44:26 PM

Another waste of time.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 10:43:18 PM

Buy American and throw the Made In China crap away.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 10:42:33 PM

what American companies? The big corps. all have operations in other countries. It's all about greed.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 10:40:07 PM

Moot point. Bolster the panels or not -- they are unaffordable.

Solar has much more involved than panels. Construction, maintenance, batteries, power inverters and switching equipment are also part of the overall cost.

Only when cost is NOT a factor does PV solar make sense. When the sun shines, that is.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 10:37:55 PM

we need to protect americian companies
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 10:36:48 PM

There is always a better way
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 10:36:45 PM

We certainly have the ability to make quality just about anything and get it to the consumer at a decent price....it's politics that get in the way.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 10:34:09 PM

show em what we can do
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 10:33:55 PM

china can not be trusted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 10:31:26 PM

ok
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If we stop buying things made in USA, there will soon not be a USA as we remember it.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 10:28:11 PM

I agree with you LanguageMan1 100%
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 10:27:38 PM

Buy American!
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 10:26:55 PM

So what else is new... Nice not to trade with them on moral/ethical grounds, but from a business perspective, not much will change... a potential market of 1+ billion is hard to ignore
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ok
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 10:24:02 PM

We probably should not be trading with any country that keeps its people in bondage; the slave labor wages ALONE being sufficient, but I also am not in favor of giving the Federal government more money.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 10:23:49 PM

China...no surprise..
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ok
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 10:21:12 PM

China wants to be the supplier for the world.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 10:18:32 PM

Good. Make them so expensive that no one can buy them
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 10:17:30 PM

I'm getting ready to buy a couple of additional solar panels, and I most likely will NOT buy Chinese made solar panels if I can avoid it. Depends on what I'm able to find, and I should be able to buy one or more American made panels; which is an example others should follow here in this country if they want to retain or grow jobs with as little government involvement as possible. It's the same with razors, buy the cheap made Chinese crap, get a bad shave and lose jobs or buy American made razors and get a better shave, a longer lasting razor and keep or grow jobs.
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OK!
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 10:09:44 PM

US eyes tariffs on chinese solar panels,but what gets protected.Even with tariffs on chinese products it's still cheaper,we need to look at this closely.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 10:07:22 PM

Back's against the wall.
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The sun, duh.
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Solar panels have never been worth producing.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 10:02:49 PM

You're worried about solar panels when gas and diesel prices are ridiculous?

Anything to get some cheaper energy is welcomed.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 9:59:14 PM

ExplorerWA, really have to agree. I, too, cannot see a 'win' here'.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 9:59:06 PM

This is just a ploy by Obama to cadge more campaign contributions from the solar panel industry before the rest of them go broke.
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