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Officials stand by high-speed rail estimate

By Tim Sheehan - The Fresno Bee -- State rail officials are defending as reasonable their estimates that passengers will take at least 29 million trips a year on high-speed trains between San Francisco and Los Angeles by 2040.

In car-loving California, state High-Speed Rail Authority board members say, it will take only a small share of the millions of trips now being made by car and airplane to switch to trains to make the project profitable.

"If you look at the long-term projections for rides in this state," said Michael Rossi, an authority board member and former vice president of Bank of America, "we only need less than 3% total ride changes [to high-speed trains] from cars and aviation to break even, and more of that will come from cars than aviation."


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If they want it, let them have it if they pay for it.
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I love trains but too much politics
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 9:38:26 AM

I've never ridden on light rail or train..sounds like it might be something to consider
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 6:11:17 AM

You might be surprised. In charlotte a ton of people that would never ride a city bus love riding the light rail train. Something about trains.
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It's all smoke and mirrors.
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Just look what they did in the 1960s with freways.
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Sigh....
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If Californians really want this, then let them pay for it with local funds. Don't ask people from Iowa or Nebraska to contribute their tax dollars towards this.
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Build it and they will come. Price it right and they will run to it.
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Only in the PRK!
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This is just the kind of thing that obama and the energy department could support. It has loser and waste of taxpayer money written all over it.
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One word, Monorail! Just ask the Simpsons.
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San Francisco International Airport spokesman Michael McCarron said there are more than 500 flights a week between San Francisco and airports in the Los Angeles Basin, including Los Angeles International, Burbank, Ontario and Santa Ana.
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Ever driven from San Francisco to Los Angeles? It's ridiculous. You are free, to spend eight hours on the highway with your car sucking $5/gal gas, breathing the exhaust of everyone around you to get to some concrete jungle where you're going to sit in traffic because there's always traffic.
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Maybe by then (2040) that will be the only transportation available if Obama has his way.
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Useless spending.
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Just spendîñg and spending.
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If Joe Biden thinks it is a good idea; it isn't.
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 12:26:50 AM

It will work in the more populated areas but not in the less populated areas of the west and midwest.
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Waste of money.
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 12:25:24 AM

More likely to believe estimates if made by someone impartial instead of 'state rail officials' depending on funding to pay for their jobs.
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Interesting
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They are so broke that they can't find nine cents, much less $9 Billion.

Pie in the Sky.
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i won't live long enough to see it.
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Silly to think that LRT or HSR is worth constructing.
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There is something to be said for being the industrialized nation with the slowest rail system. Goes well with the poorest maintained roads.
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 12:14:24 AM

...long term projections...
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 12:13:22 AM

California has a deficit of 20 billion plus deficit and it will cost over 100 billion to complete the high speed rail.

Those official in California is absolutely brilliant.
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Try it for fun but not for savings.
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This could work, provided the train line was 100% unsubsidized private sector and there was a ticket tax that would be spent on roadway maintenance. But this is california so no doubt it will be set up wrong, run bloatedly and be half as good as it should be. One word, AMTRACK
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 12:10:16 AM

Yeah ... I don't think so ... This, too will wind up as a taxpayer subsidized boondoggle ...
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More debt...I have little faith it will be used.
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are these the same type of people who believe ethanol will cure the world's problems ??..
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Thanks for posting this article!
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I'm skeptical.
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I think if it is built, they will use it.
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 12:07:16 AM

High speed rail is great, but we're a car culture. This would work much better on the East Coast where the rail infrastructure already exists, people are habituated to train travel, population (and customer) density are greater, and the train stations are near where you want to be and have well developed mass transit hubs for transfers.
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I'll be 79 by then. I'll wait and see.
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SAY WHAT/
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With pump prices climbing while America is disallowed to drill offshore, onshore on Federal Lands & ANWR for America's rich resources many will vote for this rail. $8.00 gas will generate a lot of votes.
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 12:03:58 AM

California already has high speed rail... what is the profitability of exisiting rail options?
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The Lies keep coming.
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Ok
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Laughable!
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wow.
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High speed trains are great, try one before you put them down.
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I hope they don't stand too close. They just might get sucked in.
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Very costly and we can ill afford it.
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